Mar 16

Do you support Ford and GM Bail Out?

  • I never though I would hear the day that GM and Ford says its the consumers fault for buying foreign cars.

    Im sorry but that is bull...I wouldnt walk millions of people to lose there job, but let the Ceo's sell there houses, there cars, there jets, there limos, and take the money out there bank...

    They want to take the credit and get the profit, but they dont want to take the credit when there losing profit!

    Where is the bail out for the families of America, the bailout for the hard working americans, not the CEO's.


  • I'm a non-US citizen. I'm not the foreigner here, but you just might be.

    UAW suck the people's money. Unions are a thing of the past. Look at us Asian, we have little need for unions and seldom do they control the way things go in our industries.

    Let's see the whole food chain here:-

    1. You pay them for the cars you drive.
    2. The price you pay includes all the costs, employees' wages, the union and their own (auto makers') big fat saving accounts.
    3. US Government gives them tax levies and benefits, using tax money.

    So...... where does that leave the common taxpayers?

    Remove the union and you will see the difference.


  • I use to work in the automotive industry and I'd hate to see these companies go down cause of the loss of jobs. Now will they total disappear, not sure. I don't support the bailout. I can make the same argument. I'm not working let's propose a one time tax on everyone who lives in my city. If people don't support this they will loose my hard working ethic and skills. We have to get some media and lobbyists to inflate my situation so I can dupe my fellow neighbors.


  • I think it's more than just the CEO's. It's the Unionized laborers who are receiving benefits that cost way more than the value of the work they provided the automobile companies when they were employed.

    Add to the fact that in recent years, they haven't been making cars that people want to drive, it makes for a deadly combination that may cause the demise of these companies. If they are to pass away, let better, more financially sound automobile companies rise to replace them. That's the most sensible solution.

    It's not the governments role to secure people's jobs. Having a job is not a right. If people can't cut it in the industry they're in, they need to find work else where.


  • If I could pick and choose I would back ford... They stated to congress that they have enough money to see them thru next year and the ceo stated that if he has to touch the bailout money he will reduce his salary to 1 dollar a year.

    Sounds like a plan to me. He is willing to take a cut before cutting someone else. Cant say that for GM or Chrysler


  • Let the people that all BIG 3 have been so loyal to all these years bail them out. THE OIL COMPANIES.


  • Here's the latest from Ford: No bailout necessary.

    Read the first sentence from this article:
    http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11119652?s...


  • I don't support the auto makers' bailout.

    I support jobs for the workers who have devoted their lives to their employers but, as a taxpayer, I question whether the companies are prepared to offer a product for the times. This goes far beyond the problem of producing SUVs when all indicators were showing that their time had past.

    The basic problem Detroit has is that their cars are not as good as their competitors from Japan and Europe. Once you've lost a consumer to another brand, it's harder to get them back than it was to keep them in the first place. If you give them $25B now, it's not at all clear that you haven't just flushed the entire amount. It seems as though we'd be better offer seeing them file pre-packaged bankruptcies and emerge in restructured forms (with parts being spun off to some of the foreign manufacturers).


  • I think both Ford and GM will probably survive with or without a bailout they will not be the same companies they are now but they will survive. I am not sure about Chrysler they may not make it.


  • Yeah, I'm with you on CEO's making sacrifices... but same with the UAW worker.

    They have been making 60 - 90k+ a year for the last 10 - 30 years, and now they need you and I to send them money out of our measly checks to make sure they don't go hungry... poor them.

    *edit* Here's something else to consider: UAW membership is 1/3 what it was 30 years ago. The UAW has eaten itself alive - At this rate there won't be assembly jobs left in the US regardless of what happens in congress. We can dump endless billions into the big 3 and they will still have a broken system.

    It makes no sense to try and bail out a sinking ship without first fixing the leak.


  • Some CEO's would rather layoff hardworking Americans rather than cut their earnings just by a little. In their mind lets have American taxes cover our loses rather than give up some of our luxury to save our company. They did not even try to save themselves but instead blame American consumers for their losses that is wrong!


  • NO


  • You're a foreigner, aren't you?

    GM and Ford must NOT go under, It is the beginning of FOREIGN DOMINATION!

    BUY AMERICAN!







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